Jon, 37, Hailsham, East Sussex
Occupation Systems expert
Voting record Has voted numerous means, including spoiled ballots
Amuse bouche Also tends to make bespoke barbecues
Nick, 43, Hailsham
Occupation Technical assistance and computer software screening
Voting record Nick is an associate of the Labor celebration, but ballots Lib Dem tactically
Amuse bouche Nick is a motorbike lover which performed motocross leaps on dust paths, before he became a dad
Jon He’s an extremely great man – he wandered in smiling.
Nick He reminds myself of 1 of my buddies – good perspective, relaxed.
Jon I had pig cheeks, after that steak and potato chips.
Nick I consumed a hummus beginner with pitta breads, I quickly had a vegan sharing meal.
Jon He ended up being funny – he had a sharing meal but i did not desire to share it.
The huge beef
Nick i believe the differences when considering united states stem from the huge difference in our characters. I’m a rather careful individual, almost chronically anxious, whereas he appears very unfazed by things. He thinks everything will work out in the end.
Jon When we chatted about strength, i believe perhaps the variations begun with truly various experiences in school. It’s only enjoyable, is not it? You hang out along with your buddies while complete at 3pm – it is wonderful task.
Nick I obsess over specific things and the environment is regarded as all of them. We stated, “I’m really quite terrified, for my son, for his future.” In regards to views, I’m perhaps not far-off Extinction Rebellion. I’ve a top standard of anxiety about this.
Jon i did so tell him, “If Insulate Britain lay down in front of my truck, they could be a speed bump, for all I care.” We wouldn’t operate all of them over, but I would personally state, “You have to move, I’ve got a job to do.” You can glue you to ultimately one thing, yet not in the roadway – it simply costs individuals their particular money and time. I believe he comprehended – I’m perhaps not saying it because We disagree together, but the easiest way to have individuals up to speed should collaborate.
Nick We’re over 400 components per million of CO2 which can be only unprecedented. I’d like my generation to perhaps be much more anxious and depressed, anything like me.
Jon I’m certain the researchers will produce one thing. Fifteen years back we don’t have iPhones. And today they are in everybody’s pouches.
Jon i believe everyone else should spend income tax at the exact same price. He performed earn some extremely legitimate things – that should you had been using less off the individuals at the top, you would certainly be using even more off individuals at the base. It performed transform my view somewhat. It might-be somewhat more difficult to make usage of than I was thinking.
Nick In talking-to him, we rapidly discovered he earns significantly more than myself, therefore demonstrably he’s spending a more substantial share of their earnings in income tax, despite all the accountant tips he chatted about.
Jon We don’t really talk about just what income tax must be used on. I simply had this top-line concept and believed i possibly could most likely work out the information in the future. But talking-to him, it thought like there have been lots of details.
Nick we pointed out that should you’ve got somebody on a low-paid task, taking in 10 grand a-year, they are within the individual allowance. If out of the blue you have got an appartment price of 10-20per cent, they may be dropping £2,000 a-year which, to somebody who ended up being struggling, is devastating.
Jon It’s negative many individuals passed away in the pandemic. But becoming furloughed permitted us to have 2 months to begin my various other company. We had an infant during lockdown; the most challenging thing for me personally ended up being maintaining my mama and my mother-in-law away.
Nick I happened to be extremely anxious during Covid, after the data everyday, and he most likely was not. My explanation ended up being that we understood you might have the virus asymptomatically, and so I ended up being concerned about driving it onto somebody who ended up being susceptible. I believe he only desired to stay their life and acquire on with-it.
Jon We usually got on. We’re likely to go with a beer sooner or later in the future – we took their quantity. We wandered right back collectively also.
Nick He operates a fruitful company, he’s extremely hard-working, he deserves everything he gets. But i believe he only discusses just how it moved for him and thinks, “Why can’t other people just be more like me?”
Additional reporting: Sarah Hooper
Jon and Nick consumed at B12 Bar & Kitchen in Hailsham
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